怀疑华为是间谍 澳大利亚宽带工程面临审查 + Some Comments from ZDNet Australia

澳大利亚报纸周四称（参见: Chinese spy fears on broadband frontrunner），缘于国际社会对华为公司与政府紧密联系的关注，安全机构将“仔细审查”华为在澳大利亚参与的所有宽带网络建设项目。

中国网络供应商华为技术有限公司日前发表声明，反驳此前澳大利亚媒体因为其关联到中国军队和政府而可能导致澳大利亚全国宽带网络安全“荒谬可笑”的言论。澳大利亚报纸周四称，缘于国际社会对华为公司与政府紧密联系的关注，安全机构将“仔细审查”华为在澳大利亚参与的所有宽带网络建设项目。
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华为公共关系亚太地区发言人在周四下午发表的声明中否认了该项指责。该公司向一些澳大利亚电信公司供应设备，在澳大利亚当地有230名员工。声明中称，华为是一家私人控股的企业，通过员工股权计划，华为员工和管理层掌握着百分之一百的公司股权，没有任何其他组织，包括政府、军队或企业持有华为股份。

针对澳大利亚报告中引用华为创始人任正非有军事背景的说法，华为公司指出，许多北美和欧洲的商业领袖都曾有过服兵役的经历。华为只生产民用电信设备，其主要客户包括35名世界排名前50位的电信运营商在内，该公司指出，2007年全年营销收入中仅有百分之零点五来自中国政府。

声明还称，在华为可以与澳洲本土公司合作前，它就经过严格的审计，这些审查包括公司战略规划、流程、管理体系、质量控制和人力资源情况。

今年早些时候，为了确保已经出售给美国国防部的设备安全问题，美国政府阻止了华为收购3Com公司。澳大利亚行政部长尼克明钦周四声称，澳大利亚的报告载有“可能非常有关的启示”，澳大利亚人必须保证NBN(国家宽带网络系统)的安全。

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文章出处：赛迪网
作者：黑咖啡

Some Comments from ZDNet Australia

1. gee how one sided this report is... just name number two telco Oputs but forget to mention that Telstra ALSO uses their products! - Anonymous

In case you haven't heard, Telstra is out of the game, so whether they use Huawei is irrelevant to the national security of the NBN. - Anonymous

2. Because Huawei products are just reverse-engineered Cisco rip-offs! - Anonymous

3. Gee when it was raised about concerns of giving Optus our satellites used for defence purpose, no one seemed concern then.

Though that would be a bigger issue than NBN - Anonymous

I know when Timor errupted Telstra had a pivotal role in securing the Nations Telecoms in the early stages. Why should we trust SINGTEL?OPTUS???

If I was in IRAQ I would like to know Comms was SECURE!!! - Anonymous

There is NO way an Australian Government could give Australia's vital NBN Network to a foreign Government especially one with contacts with Chinese spies. Get real Mr Rudd. - K.Rampton

4. There is much concern that the Chinese have a back door via Huawei but the US have had access for years via vendors such as Cisco, HP, IBM etc. How come its OK for the US but not for any one else? - Davo

Don't forget that French vendors also have govt hooks - Anonymous

The U.S. didn't blow up the World Trade Centre. - Sydney Lawrence

no offense sydney, that was a stupid comment, the world trade was blown up by pissed off terroists using nothing more than some handguns and microsoft flight sim 95... and for you to compare one of the largest terrorist attacks ever to something as stupid as a chinese tech manafacturer supplying for an aussie build, is frankly, offensive, and unintelligble at the best - joe

O.K. sorry Joe I did go over the top a little there. - Sydney Lawrence

5. Optus (amongst others) uses Huawei now and there's never been any complaints about it prior. As it's already been pointed out Telstra uses Huawei too so it's not as if Optus is the only one using them.

As for security, well the DOD encrypts it's data before it hits the network and decrypts afterwards on the other side. And any security places (such as satellite control) require high level defense clearance before you can enter them, and Singtel staff are banned from access.

Minchin is just spreading FUD, perhaps if he took the time to learn that anyone who is using secure information encrypts their data themselves and that security measures to protect Australians defense interests are in place he might learn something about how the department he is shadow minister for works. - Terry

Terry you are completely wrong. Agents for Singapore are very active in espionage circles!

Forget the Chinese...it is common knowledge the Singaporeans are very active on the espionage front....

Nick Minchin is right to raise concerns!!

Why not hand the keys over to the chinese while - Anonymous

I'm currently working for them in telstra atm... :O !! omg! quick everyone, run around, burn all the telephone poles you can find! shoot widely into the air in hopes of hitting the telstra satellite!!!

seriously people, what exactly are any spies looking into our NBN (which is almost exclusively for private use) going to find??? our porn collection?? omg, paranoia run riot! our current network is just as easily comprimised as an NBN would be - joe

"Terry you are completely wrong. Agents for Singapore are very active in espionage circles!"

And I wasn't arguing that, what I said was that anything secure that runs over a telco network is encrypted by the sender, and in the case of secure locations (such as the satellite earthstation) it is a requirement that security clearances be obtained.

So so what if Singapore or China is active in espionage circles, the Optus network is secure enough for the DOD to use it, if it's that secure I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Regardless though I agree with O'Really, the best single bidder remaining is Axis. - Terry

"Regardless though I agree with O'Really, the best single bidder remaining is Axis"

That should read Axia, damn typo :-) - Terry

Cisco retains close relationships with the US military and intelligence circles. Does this mean we cant use the internet anymore?

A little less FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) and a little more practical security and risk analysis would most likely result in people realizing that this is not as much of a problem as people think.

Every major international company that sells networking equipment maintains close ties with the military and intelligence communities of its home country as they will be purchasing their equipment and providing information on bugs and faults.

Please stop spreading FUD and analyze problems critically. - Matthew Lye

Minchin's FUD is most likely politically oriented (cheap shot) but it sure is convincing. The chance of having a backdoor of any kind (Chinese or not) is simply unacceptable.

Personally, I want the Canadians in charge of this one. They seem fantastic. The others smell of cheap perfume with nothing under their belts. - O'Really

6. Your displaying Xenophobia.

If you think we're lily white, think again. The American CIA & DOD has more weird projects than any country on the face of the earth, that don't fit with other countries best interests.

When you have nut cases like the Bush family running the wealthiest and strongest country in the world it's a recipe for world disaster.

Private & Multinational companies in the USA all participate with the DOD & CIA in clandestine activities, which aren't always in our best interests. - Keith Styles

7. I think ludicrous was putting it nicely. Does our government have no tact? Minchin should be reprimanded for this. I don't think it's appropriate to use ones influence to make baseless claims that have likely damaged the reputation of a perfectly legit company and come close to being a grave insult against the Chinese government. Are we going to pretend far greater acts of espionage aren't committed every single day by other countries? That includes us. - Anonymous